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. _| : _____ ______________ |___| _ _______/ 25 /\___________________________ / ____________/ /\__\ _ _______/____/_____________________________ / / _________ \/__/ ______\ 25 \_____________________________ / / / `_ . .~ \____\/ _ __ ___ / / / _____ . _ \ __ ___ _/__/\ / / / / /\ _ __ __\__\/ _/__/ / ____/ /__\_________________________________ _____ ___ _ / 25 /\/ /___ __________ _ ______ _ ___ \/ /\ / 25 / /____/25\ \ / /\ / __/\ / /\ \ \ / \ /____/ / / \ / \/ /_ \___/___/ \ \_/___/ / \_/ / / \ ___\ / /_/ /______/\/ \ /______/\/ \ /_____/ // \ \ / / / \ / / \ \ \ \_\ \ \ \_\ \ //____/\____\/ / / / / / \______\/ \______\/ \_____\/ \ \ \ \ / / / / \____\/\____\ / / / / _____ _____ _____ _____ _____ _____ / / / /__/ w /\___/ /\___/ e /\___/ /\__ / l /\___/ /\____/ / / __/____/____/____/____/____/____/____/____/____/____/____/________/ / __\ \____\ e \____\ \____\ k \ ___\ \____\ y \__________/ \____\/ \____\/ \____\/ \____\/ \____\/ \____\/WW ps: woa, a rendered askee! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | TraxWeekly Issue: #25 | Release date: 09-11-95 | Current subscribers: 316 | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- /--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------[ Introduction ]------------------------------/ _ _________________ /_\ \__ / (stoney askee) ____ ______ \____ ____/____________ ______ _/ \ _/ \ \ww_/ \ _/ ________/_/ _ \ __/ \/ \ \/ \/ \ / | \__ ___ ___ _______ _/ \\ \ \\ \\ | \\/ | \_ ___ __ __ ____ /___________\__\_______\________\____|______\____________\ \__\ First off, I'd like to apoligize for not having this mag out on Thursday, I was hoping so much to get it out on time but it's kind of hard from the operating room in a hospital. I found out I had appendisitis and the appendix had to go, I'm still in a lot of pain, but I want you to have this special issue of TraxWeekly. Remember that you are welcome to contribute to TraxWeekly at any time. - Popcorn [campbell@fox.nstn.ca] /--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------[ Contents ]---------------------------------/ ________ __________________________________________________________________ / ____/_/ __/ \ __/ / _____/ \ __/ __/ ___/__ < \____\ \ \\ \ \\____ __/ __/_\ \ \\____ \_____ \___ \ \ \ \\ \ \ww\ \\ \\ \ \ \ \ \__ _\________\________\\___\____\ \_____\\_______\\___\____\ \_____\_______\ Letters / Comments General Articles Unwarranted Scene Criticism................Psibelius TraxWeekly Silver..........................Psibelius Ripping. Who Cares?........................Psibelius Loops and Extended Samples.................Zapper Truth, or bullshit.........................Maelcum Group Columns Epinicion..................................Psibelius Kosmic.....................................Maelcum Closing Distribution Sites..........................Neurosis TraxWeekly Subscribing/FTP/WWW Info.........TraxWeekly Staff Group Members...............................TraxWeekly Staff ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _ _ _ __ ___ _ | | ___| |_| |_ ___ _ _ ___ / / / __|___ _ __ _ __ ___ _ _| |_ ___ | |__/ -_) _| _/ -_) '_(_-< / / | (__/ _ \ ' \| ' \/ -_) ' \ _(_-< |____\___|\__|\__\___|_| /__/ /_/ \___\___/_|_|_|_|_|_\___|_||_\__/__/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dmw@gate.net Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 23:17:43 -0400 To: campbell@fox.nstn.ca Subject: Looking for Music disk In my quest to complete the FREEDOM CD I've been searching for the music disk "3rd punk" by Cybelius. The same guy who did Difference 1,2 and equality. I tried to get hoplite to upload it but did not pan out, seems he has some problems. I know it is on some boards in finland....here? If either of you have this or know where I can get it please let me know. I'd like to have it by tomorrow night to include on the CD as I will be wrapping the data portion of the CD up then. Welp, gotta go.....i'm breaking down.... BTW, if there is anything you'd really like to see on the CD (or taken off) --/demos/incoming/freedom/dir_list_update Let me know by tomorrow. A lot of FM stuff and music disks are on the CD... -dan dmw@gate.net /--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------[ General Articles ]----------------------------/ ...---===[ Unwarranted Scene Criticism ]===---... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've had the wonderful opportunity to sit back, watch, and read the massive distribution of opinions these last few weeks (thanks to a job and school that sucked up 99% of my regular IRCing time) and my head is still spinning. In any case, I'd like to address a few points that have been mentioned all too many times... ...the first being the one about musical styles. "Too many people are composing mellow stuff." "Techno sucks." "No one has any kind of individuality anymore." "People use too many channels." "There's not enough variety in the music scene." What the hell is all this bs? People will write whatever they feel like, and if you don't happen to like it, tough beans. Musicians already have enough problems trying to compose as it is without a bunch of mindless critics trying to force them to conform to some kind of "ideal" style. In short, we will compose anything we damn feel like, so blow me. And for those people claiming there isn't enough variety: Get your head out from between your ass and start looking around for chrissake... Last week in TraxWeekly, I do recall someone complaining about all the people trying to do their "own spin of Second Reality." Those kinds of comments really piss me off. Let's get it straight here and now, just because the Second Reality opening by Skaven is classical-ish, that does not mean that every goddamn composer that writes in an orchestral style is trying to copy Skaven! Believe it or not, the great almighty Peter Hajba is a human being like all of us, who just happens to have lots of creative energy and is able to transfer that to mod format. More power to him. The fact is, an orchestral mod cannot be immediately defined as a Skaven song wannabe. That is a shallow and biased assumption. "Composers should write tunes that chauffeurs and errand boys can whistle....That which penetrates the ear with facility and quits the memory with difficulty." -Sir Thomas Beecham The second point is about group leaders. A group leader has one function: to keep the group together and focusing on a common goal. I can see a number of group leaders acting like their position gives them some kind of god given right to criticize, bash, flame, etc. anyone that happens to disagree with their point of view. Well guess what? Being a group leader doesn't give you power over other people. It represents the trust that your members have in you to lead them collectively. My point being, I couldn't care less how great you think you are as the head of a group. The opinions your members have of you are what determine whether you are a good respected leader or not. Finally, stop criticizing. I guess that sounds kind of ironic, seeing as the entire content of my article here is focused around criticizing, but the sooner we stop trying to ferret out every little fuzzed up detail and start working together as a whole, is when our lot improves. So Skaven's winning ASM'95 entry is unfinished. Maybe it is annoying. Maybe it shouldn't have won. Big woop. It always turns out all 3000+ voters are wrong and some so-and-so person who didn't even place claims the results are incorrect. The fact remains that is was really entertaining the first time around. So it won. Not much a surprise. It's like a book. If the first chapter really sucks, or is really boring, don't count on the reader going to chapter two. Same in music. At the compo, the song that turns heads is what people will remember. We determine our own fates, and if you rely on the failures of others for your success, then you will lead a very sorry life. "It is the province of knowledge to speak and it is the privilege of wisdom to listen." - Oliver Wendell Holmes And many thanks to Peter Hajba (Skaven). He serves many great examples that have found their way into my article today. =) Psibelius [TraxWeekly Columnist] gwie@owl.csusm.edu --[ TraxWeekly Silver]------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Congratulations people, we've made it to TraxWeeky's 25th anniversary. For 25 weeks we've been annoying people with this haphazard collection of music scene ramblings and paraphanelia. And we're damn proud of it. =) September rolls around again, and another academic year begins for a lot of us. It's amazing how fast the scene changes. I remember starting modeming back in September of 1993. When I wanted to be an ansi artist. When I wanted to be 'cool' like all the guys I saw in acid and ice and so forth (hey, I was a newbie, what did I know?). Whenever we start complaining about the demo scene or the music scene, just stop to think about what the people in the ansi scene have it like. A number of those people are really cool (re's to pinion, floodmyth, fu), and they have to deal with the reputation of a large mass of what we coin as "lamers." Just hop into #ansi and see what it's like. It really sucks. Be thankful that #trax hasn't degenerated into that stage. I'd like to say "thank you" to all the people that have joined the TraxWeekly staff. It certainly lightens the load for some of us. It's nice to not be the only columnist anymore. =) Have a great day. Psibelius [TraxWeekly Columnist] gwie@owl.csusm.edu --[ Ripping: Who Cares? ]--------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wow. So some annoying newbie has managed somehow to convince you to take their new song and listen to it. You plop the s3m into cubic player and you are greeted with a song that is fairly original...but wait! What's THAT?!? A Second Reality sample and a Necros sample??? OH NO! The world is coming to an end!!! NOT. This stupid controversy around ripping samples is a waste of time. Let me explain. What we have come to know as "Second Reality" samples are only defined as such because they come from 2nd_skav.s3m or 2nd_pm.s3m. Has anyone even thought to wonder where the heck the gods of FC music got them? One complaint that seems to be noted often is the overuse of the marcato strings sample from 2nd_skav.s3m. Well, pull it out using your trusty sample ripper (I recommend GetSamps v2.42 by Zab[Hardcode]), and compare it to one of the GUS midi patches called 'marcato.pat.' If you use a tracker that can import both of those samples, you will see that they are virtually IDENTICAL; if not just by size, then by sound. If you have been into the music scene for quite awhile, you will notice that eventually, everyone's going to run into the same samples. Good, usable, samples are difficult to make (if you don't believe me, then go and try. And I mean GOOD samples. No clicks, loop easily, correct pitch, and volume). So why go to the trouble of sampling yet ANOTHER piano when there are already hundreds of good piano samples already out there? There really isn't, unless you need something specific. My point? Too many people these days spend their entire existence looking for and writing about sample ripping. The basic rule is, don't use an individualized sample that is specific to a certain song. Just as you wouldn't rip lyrics from another song to put in yours, you wouldn't take the saxaphone samples from Necros' "The Grey Note," because those samples aren't single note. Those are specific melody lines that fit the song. And remember that it is not the specific samples that make a song, but how different samples are woven together to create a new musical picture. It is perfectly fine to rip samples, as long as the creator of that sample is credited. A lot of times, that won't be possible, because the person whose song you took the sample from may not be the one that created that particular sample. If you don't know, then don't bother. Because it's pretty likely no one else does either. But if a musician states that he does not wish his own, self-made samples to be re-used, then we must respect that. Ripping an entire sample set out of a song merely allows you to write something that's completely influenced by that one song. Combine samples from many different songs to achieve your own individual feel. That's how sample ripping works. A song can be good or bad when judged by its entirety. Even the best song is nothing when broken down into 9999999999 individual parts. Is this how we should listen to music? I think not. Psibelius [TraxWeekly Columnist] gwie@owl.csusm.edu -[ Loops And Extended Samples ]--------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Loops And Extended Samples - The Zapper! / Force Ten Hello to you, all musicians and trackers. Okay, I would like to discuss about those longs samples/loops. Everybody knows it: I'm a *BIG* user of those. The main reason: to get some descent guitar riffs and sometimes drum loops. Let's get started! Loops seems to be "unaccepted" by several trackers/musicians on the scene for different reasons. For me, it's a good way to "fill" a song. It adds texture, presence and some kind of "feel" to (my) music. I use many loop sources: sometimes I play/sample my own guitar loops and sometimes I sample those from some CDs. So, why loops and extended samples would be permitted in music such as Rap, Techno, Dance, Etc, Etc, and not in "my" style of music? Think about it... Anyhow, that's not the whole point of this little writting, They are many "loop admirers" too (God Thanks!) hehehe. I wanna share some tricks with you, if you care to read this! =) Take note that it's mainly for guitar loops, which I do most, but it can apply as drum/bass loops as well. First: Try to use some "rare" things, not that everyday radio song, if you know what I mean. I think it's better if people can't tell where you grabbed your loops. If you are a guitar player or you know someone who play the strings, prepare yourself for a little more work, but the good thing is that all of your future song is gonna be original. If you're sampling from a CD, try to locate isolated riffs. It will give you a lot more freedom when you're gonna be tracking with it. Once you found that super guitar loop, sample it. If you're sampling from a guitar (not from a CD or anything else) Here's my few tricks: Use Goldwave for Windows (or any other like CoolEdit). Next load some sequencer program. Now, you ask: Why a sequencer? We're sampling here! The sequencer will help us "timing" the riff. If you play without any timing at all, the guitar is gonna sound very odd (not timed) in your future S3M/MOD/XM. So set the sequencer's clicker to use the PC-Speaker, then adjust the sequencer's tempo to your needs. Next, hit the "Record" button and play your riff, try to stay timed to the clicker. I'm warning you: It's a bit tough. Once, I played a riff at least 10 times before getting it straight! (But i'm not a excellent player... So, you'll surely do better!) Okay, now that you have that perfect sample. Check it's length. If it's longer than 64K well, you must split it! (Unless you're using FT2, but even though, I recommend spliting it for some timing reasons that's gonna be explained later in that text). So, a loop is easier to track and time if it's splited at the up-beat. (I think you all knew that) So, find your up-beat(s) and split your sample. Once your done, load 'em into your favorite tracker program. Then place a note at lines 00, 16, 32, 48 and 56. (or anywhere you want, depending on the tempo/speed you want to use) This is to retrig your loop every up-beat to make sure it's always synced/timed to your tune. Adjust the tempo/speed to match the exact tempo of the loop. (That's why you used a clicker if you sampled your own guitar riff. This is to make sure the loop isn't odd/desynced) Next, on another track, put some bass drum or something every 4 or 8 lines. Play the thing. It surely sounds weird now... So, fine tune the tempo so that your bass drum fits with your loop. Sometimes one of your loops can be too short or too long. If it's too short, make a very tight loop and the end of the sample. If it's a bit loop long, use a "SDx" command to delay the next sample or "Oxx" to offset the beginning. Try to be original. Your new song doesn't have to sound like the one you grabbed your loop in. Sometimes it's hard not to stick to the original song, but it is the whole point: Create a "NEW" piece of music. So be creative. For my conclusion, I'd like to say that it sounds maybe a bit easy like that, but it needs practice to make it sound perfect. So, good Loop Hunting and keep on making noise! The Zapper! - Force Ten zapper@autoroute.net --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Truth.. or Bullshit? composed, i mean written, by Maelcum. (a guy who has written more songs than there are grains of sand on a beach) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today I'd like to spend some time addressing some things that are quite frankly really bothering me about the direction "our 'scene'" seems to be headed. I'll start off with my worries about ftp.cdrom.com, and the Hornet "group" as a whole. I don't know quite what it is, perhaps the whole thing has just gotten too big for it's own good. Every time I read a new issue of DemoNews it seems someone has made another incredibly stupid decision. Witness the latest one, from Demonews #100: -=- begin quote -=- _____Deleting Music And now, a plan that will go in action very shortly. As the months ramble on, we are constantly running out of space on the FTP site. To combat this problem, we have decided to enforce a new policy. Any song upload that does not receive a rating of *** or higher will be deleted after one month. As I can see it, the policy can work two ways, such as the flip of a coin. You call it. Heads: People will get pissed off that their songs are being deleted from the FTP site. You lose. -=- end quote -=- This is true. *EVERYONE* will lose. Many good songs will be deleted simply because of the whims of *FOUR PAIRS OF EARS* and their respective tastes. -=- quote continues -=- Tails: People will try to improve their music skills so that their songs can be among the few that will be allowed to stay on the site. You win. -=- end quote -=- This is absolutely false. Nobody wins, period. What this policy ensures is that the tastes of the masses are dictated by four people. This is the same type of thing that has made the corporation-driven music industry such a barren wasteland where many extremely talented artists are denied their audience. What will really happen is people will either 1) fuck this shit, and go elsewhere, or 2) comprimise their artistic integrity just to please the tastes of these 4 judges (which is easy enough to figure out just by checking out the songs they rate highly). Most artists will not have the luxury of the former choice, since most people don't have their own FTP sites, and there really is no other tracker music site which is open to all artists. _Yet._ -=- quote continued -=- _____Conclusion Our goal is to provide everyone with the best collection of demo-related files that we can with our current quota. We hope that you will see this change as a benefit to the entire site, because it will allow the site to continue to serve its users for several more months. -=- end of quote -=- Quotas based on the subjective opinions of a governing minority are in the best interest of absolutely no one. If there is a problem with space, delete stuff that's older than two months, REGARDLESS of how good it is. This way, you are at least being fair. Letting four people have such a large say in what everyone else gets to listen to is nothing short of fascism. Now on to a related item: the ratings themselves. Demonews' ratings are so inconsistent and illogical that there is extremely little value to them. For the purpose of illustration, witness some reviews of Kosmic music from DN#100: /songs/s3m/j-l/k_babylo.zip 165 ***+ Babylon by Phoenix/KFMF /songs/s3m/j-l/k_mtime.zip 373 **+ Missing Time by Basehead/KFMF /songs/s3m/j-l/k_plast.zip 188 *** Plastik Ganja by Zake/KFMF /songs/s3m/j-l/k_slack2.zip 219 **+ World Wide Slack (remix) by Floss /songs/s3m/j-l/k_wander.zip 257 **** Wanderlust by Leviathan/KFMF Incidentally, the reason I'm illustrating using Kosmic releases is because I simply haven't listened to enough of the other songs reviewed. Anyway, the same person apparently reviews the j-l/ songs every week, because these ratings are totally in line with how these styles are rated in other issues. Here is my problem: taking into account the new policy, two songs, which in _MY_ opinion are NOT the "worst" songs here, will be deleted from hornet after 1 month, simply because this person didn't like them. The ratings shown above make very little sense to me, except to tell me that whoever did them has a grudge against dance music and likes demo-muzaky style stuff (sorry lev =). Here are the ratings I, someone who on the other hand likes dance music and doesn't care as much for rock/demomuzak songs, would have given: /songs/s3m/j-l/k_babylo.zip 165 *** Babylon by Phoenix/KFMF /songs/s3m/j-l/k_mtime.zip 373 ***+ Missing Time by Basehead/KFMF /songs/s3m/j-l/k_plast.zip 188 **** Plastik Ganja by Zake/KFMF /songs/s3m/j-l/k_slack2.zip 219 ****+ World Wide Slack (remix) by Floss /songs/s3m/j-l/k_wander.zip 257 ***+ Wanderlust by Leviathan/KFMF Quite alot differnent as you can see. Which isn't to say that whoever did the other ratings is wrong, or that I am right. We are BOTH right. It's COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE. The point is: THESE RATINGS ARE USELESS! UNLESS YOU HAVE THE *SAME EXACT TASTES* AS THE REVIEWER, THESE REVIEWS TELL YOU **NOTHING!!** So the moral of the story is of course, ignore DemoNews, read Traxweekly for the real scoop. The only kind of reviews that are useful at all are ones like what Necros did last week in Traxweekly. And even those should always be considered as somebody's opinion, and not a yay or nay as to whether you should check something out. I've checked out some stuff before, when people told me "oh, don't get that, it's shit" and loved it, and had other things where people said "oh man, you gotta hear this!" that ended up being total crap to my ears. Listen for yourself, don't let anyone else control you. - Maelcum -[ TraxCulture]------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This week in TraxCulture, BASE VS. MAELCUM. This IRC capture was some nights ago as a number of us were discussing gifs and stuff like that. =) It was about the validity of some Alicia Silverstone pic or something like that. Eventually, chaos erupted: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - <base> maelcum, shut the fuck up for once <Maelcum> base: go eat your sardines <base> maelcum: you have twisted and warped senses of everything, you actually have like no clue about 99% of the things you talk about. you need to get out of the house. <Maelcum> base: go whack off in the corner you fool <base> Maelcum: fuck off. <Maelcum> oh well, keep having fun wanking off with your simulated snapshots <Diab> mael: as opposed to real snapshots? <Maelcum> diab: well, if you're gonna do it, it should at least be real =) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -[ Epinicion Column]-------------------------------------------------------- ___ _______ _____________ ______ ______ _______ ______ _______ ___________ | // \\ \\_____) \\_____) \\_____) \\ \\ | : / o \ o \ \ \ \ \ \ o \ \: // _____// / \ : / \ _____/ \ / : \. \\_______/ _//______\\_|__//______\\_____//______\\_____//____| /: : \\____\\ ______________________________ oT /___//| |________________________// e p i n i c i o n \\________________| New songs this week include "Water Flows" by Bert, which placed 45th in The Music Contest 3, Veteran Division; and "Gambit Queen" by Zoner. The September musicdisk needs songs. REPEAT: The September MusicDisk needs songs. Thanks to the following for their current contributions: Aradia, Dodger, Frankenstein, Ng Pei Sin, Red King, River, Zalt, and Zoner. Members, please. We need some support to get this disk off the ground. We can't afford to keep putting our projects off. *** THE DEADLINE FOR MUSICDISK SONGS IS THE 21ST OF SEPTEMBER *** NOTICES: Most of Epinicion's 1995 releases can be found at kosmic.wit.com in /kosmic/epinicion. No, we don't have the homepage up yet. Server Problems. As Usual. Psibelius (Gene Wie) Epinicion Founder gwie@owl.csusm.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -[Kosmic]------------------------------------------------------------------- . . .:.........:.. ... . + _:_______ : . + . . \ /__:__ . . . + . .:::. . \ / / . ... ... ````` ...... / _/ ___/_____________.__...:::::::.:::::::. ::::: .:::::'''' + / \ \ _ \ ___.::::::: :::: :::::: .::::: :::::: / /\ \__\_\ \____ \ `::::: :::; :::::'.::::::.::::::. ..:. . /_____/ \_____________________\..::::; ``` :::::::::::::;:::::::::::::; : : \ \___.._ ......:;:::: __ _ ``:::::::``` ```:::::::`` : : \___..__.. .::::::::::: __._ . . . (WW) . . .:............ .. . ``````` .+ . . : : + ... .... ...... a constellation of stars! Kosmic News and Views for September 7th, 1995 =========================================---- What's new? well, I've done some maintenance work on the kosmic web site, like changing the maillist info to the correct, new maillist info (yeah, i know, about damn time!) and cleaning things up. The listing of 1995 music releases is completely up to date with the exception that many of the songs aren't yet available over the web in AU/WAV/ or uncompressed, but no big deal for most people, since the ZIPped S3m/MTM/XM etc are the fastest ways to download. And yes, KosmicWeb 2.0 still is coming. And so's Christmas, and that might just get here sooner. New Releases =========--- These are the latest releases since last we did this column in TW24: 87 Sonic B00M EP ............ B00MER ........ -- .S3M -15m:27s - --- - 8/29/95 (K_B00M.ZIP) - 4 new tracks from the long lost Kosmic member. 88 Interphase 2 ............. Nemesis ....... 10 .S3M - 4m:49s - 110 - 8/30/95 (K_PHASE2.ZIP) - Synth-funk track with heavy rhythms. 89 Ibanchi Jukebox .......... Maelcum ....... 12 .MTM - 5m:28s - 153 - 8/31/95 (K_IBAN.ZIP) - Techno-house tune based on a riff by Mosaic. 90 IndusTrance .............. Khyron ........ 12 .XM - 3m:55s - 140 - 9/05/95 (K_INDUST.ZIP) - The name says it all... Check em out on kosmic.wit.com New releases coming soon from Hollywood amongst others! Kosmic new members ============------ Hmm, i guess you should all welcome HFAZE, our new (and excellent!) graphics artist. Look for his work in upcoming Kosmic demos. Top 10 List =======---- There is no top ten list this week. It's quarter of 6 in the morning, and I'm very tired. that's it for now. - Maelcum kosmic@kosmic.wit.com http://kosmic.wit.com/~kosmic/ -[ Distribution Sites ]----------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- BBS System Name Country/State Phone Number System Operator |---------------------|---------------|------------------|------------------| Mindflux Australia +61-2-416-2513 Force Format Velvet Demosite Belgium +32-3-3851594 Sleeping Dog AltConn BBS Brazil +55-11-816-2031 Herman Fuchs Hack / Ploddt Canada 902-625-5920 Popcorn Beats per Minute Canada 418-660-8137 Populus Our World Canada 416-740-4346 b0b Cyber Web Italy +39-331-310641 ArachniD TH Rijswijk BBS Netherlands +31-70-3401534 Raymond Dijkxhoorn The Digital Dream New Zealand +64-7-856-1376 Black Friday MultiMedia GS Singapore +65-252-1220 Lee Teck Chee The Portal Sweden +46-26-196363 Coyote & Cyanid Sound & Vision U.K. +44-181-288-8444 Rob Barth Aethelwulf Utopia United States 309-862-4918 Quarex Synthetic Amusement United States 410-795-8526 Sirrus |-------------------|---------------|------------------|--------------------| * Distribution Site Applications ->are<- being accepted at this time. * Send all requests to Neurosis at neurosis@unix.gcomm.com! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -[Subscribing/FTP/WWW Info]------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____TraxWeekly General.Info TraxWeekly is on the World Wide Web! 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